{"id":1769,"date":"2013-09-07T20:20:46","date_gmt":"2013-09-07T18:20:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/?page_id=1769"},"modified":"2014-11-20T14:31:09","modified_gmt":"2014-11-20T13:31:09","slug":"paul-grignon","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/?page_id=1769","title":{"rendered":"L&rsquo;argent, la monnaie, la dette :Grignon, Foucher, Rabhi"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Paul Grignon a \u00e9t\u00e9 r\u00e9trograd\u00e9 en deuxi\u00e8me place, il reste avec nous en tant que pr\u00e9curseur, mais <strong>Gabriel Rabhi<\/strong> le remplace en t\u00eate de liste.<\/p>\n<p>Grignon a commis une erreur : en insistant sur la nocivit\u00e9 du cr\u00e9dit, sans pr\u00e9ciser qu&rsquo;il parlait du cr\u00e9dit <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">priv\u00e9<\/span>. Gardez donc en t\u00eate que le mot &lsquo;priv\u00e9&rsquo; doit syst\u00e9matiquement vous venir \u00e0 l&rsquo;esprit quand vous regarderez ses films et qu&rsquo;il parlera cr\u00e9dit (priv\u00e9 !) et banques (priv\u00e9es !).<\/p>\n<p>Gabriel Rabhi, fils de l&rsquo;autre, a fait un film sur la monnaie, qu&rsquo;il compl\u00e8te plus largement avec des consid\u00e9rations sur les pouvoirs autour de la monnaie : il finit donc par parler de d\u00e9mocratie.<\/p>\n<p>Voici donc son film, que nous avons propag\u00e9 en tranches de \u00ab\u00a0<a title=\"Dans Ta Face\" href=\"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/?page_id=2173\" target=\"_blank\">Dans Ta Face<\/a>\u00a0\u00bb en <a title=\"Dans Ta Face : Incroyable mais vrai 1\/23\" href=\"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/?p=2222\" target=\"_blank\">avril 2014<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Avec <a title=\"Henri Guillemin\" href=\"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/?page_id=985\" target=\"_blank\">Guillemin <\/a>pour la base historique, vous avez l\u00e0 une base contemporaine.<\/p>\n<h2>Rabhi : Dette, crise, ch\u00f4mage, qui cr\u00e9e l&rsquo;argent ?<\/h2>\n<p><video width=\"320\" height=\"180\" controls=\"controls\" autobuffer=\"\"><source src=\"\/video\/Dette_crise_chomage_qui_cree_largent.mp4\" type=\"video\/mp4\" \/><source src=\"\/video\/Dette_crise_chomage_qui_cree_largent.webm\" type=\"video\/webm\" \/><object width=\"320\" height=\"180\" classid=\"clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"src\" value=\"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/wp-includes\/js\/tinymce\/plugins\/media\/moxieplayer.swf\" \/><param name=\"flashvars\" value=\"url=\/video\/Dette_crise_chomage_qui_cree_largent.mp4&amp;poster=\/wp-admin\/\" \/><param name=\"allowfullscreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"true\" \/><embed width=\"320\" height=\"180\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" src=\"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/wp-includes\/js\/tinymce\/plugins\/media\/moxieplayer.swf\" flashvars=\"url=\/video\/Dette_crise_chomage_qui_cree_largent.mp4&amp;poster=\/wp-admin\/\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" allowscriptaccess=\"true\" \/><\/object><\/video><\/p>\n<h2>G\u00e9rard Foucher<\/h2>\n<p>G\u00e9rard Foucher, comme Rabhi, a travaill\u00e9 sur l&rsquo;argent, la monnaie.<\/p>\n<p>Sa conf\u00e9rence, qui dure 1h36, est tr\u00e8s captivante, et pr\u00e9sente encore un autre son de cloche. Apr\u00e8s l&rsquo;avoir visionn\u00e9e, elle nous \u00e0 sembl\u00e9 s&rsquo;imposer dans ce bouquet. Bravo G\u00e9rard et merci !<\/p>\n<h2>G\u00e9rard Foucher : Argent et monnaie<\/h2>\n<p><video width=\"320\" height=\"180\" controls=\"controls\" autobuffer=\"\"><source src=\"\/video\/Les_secrets_de_la_monnaie_foucher.mp4\" type=\"video\/mp4\" \/><source src=\"\/video\/Les_secrets_de_la_monnaie_foucher.webm\" type=\"video\/webm\" \/><object width=\"320\" height=\"180\" classid=\"clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"src\" value=\"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/wp-includes\/js\/tinymce\/plugins\/media\/moxieplayer.swf\" \/><param name=\"flashvars\" value=\"url=\/video\/Les_secrets_de_la_monnaie_foucher.mp4&amp;poster=\/wp-admin\/\" \/><param name=\"allowfullscreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"true\" \/><embed width=\"320\" height=\"180\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" src=\"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/wp-includes\/js\/tinymce\/plugins\/media\/moxieplayer.swf\" flashvars=\"url=\/video\/Les_secrets_de_la_monnaie_foucher.mp4&amp;poster=\/wp-admin\/\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" allowscriptaccess=\"true\" \/><\/object><\/video><\/p>\n<h2>Paul Grignon<\/h2>\n<p><strong>Paul Grignon<\/strong> est \u00e0 l&rsquo;initiative d&rsquo;un petit film d&rsquo;animation. C&rsquo;est un pr\u00e9curseur dans l&rsquo;explication vulgaris\u00e9e des m\u00e9canismes autour de\u00a0 l&rsquo;argent.<\/p>\n<p>Ce petit film, \u00ab\u00a0L&rsquo;Argent Dette\u00a0\u00bb a \u00e9t\u00e9 suivi par la version 2 puis la 3.<\/p>\n<p>Comme on peut s&rsquo;y attendre, parler d&rsquo;argent et de dette am\u00e8ne toujours un plus malin que les autres \u00e0 intervenir pour faire une correction.<br \/>\nLa correction peut-\u00eatre appliqu\u00e9e sans que l&rsquo;original se transforme en navet.<br \/>\nAlors oui, il y a trois versions mais je n&rsquo;en retire aucune.<br \/>\nLa troisi\u00e8me est mont\u00e9e, selon moi d&rsquo;une fa\u00e7on bizarre en faisant fi de la chronologie. Grignon y expose une id\u00e9e originale pour la cr\u00e9ation mon\u00e9taire.<br \/>\nUn peu surprenante, elle m\u00e9rite votre attention. En revanche on passe du vieux \u00e0 l&rsquo;ancien, comme un film bourr\u00e9 de flashbacks.<br \/>\nEt c&rsquo;est troublant.<\/p>\n<h2>Grignon L&rsquo;argent Dette I<\/h2>\n<p><video width=\"320\" height=\"180\" controls=\"controls\" autobuffer=\"\"><source src=\"\/video\/L_Argent_Dette_de_Paul_Grignon.mp4\" type=\"video\/mp4\" \/><source src=\"\/video\/L_Argent_Dette_de_Paul_Grignon.webm\" type=\"video\/webm\" \/><object width=\"320\" height=\"180\" classid=\"clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"src\" value=\"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/wp-includes\/js\/tinymce\/plugins\/media\/moxieplayer.swf\" \/><param name=\"flashvars\" value=\"url=\/video\/L_Argent_Dette_de_Paul_Grignon.mp4&amp;poster=\/wp-admin\/\" \/><param name=\"allowfullscreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"true\" \/><embed width=\"320\" height=\"180\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" src=\"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/wp-includes\/js\/tinymce\/plugins\/media\/moxieplayer.swf\" flashvars=\"url=\/video\/L_Argent_Dette_de_Paul_Grignon.mp4&amp;poster=\/wp-admin\/\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" allowscriptaccess=\"true\" \/><\/object><\/video><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>L&rsquo;argent Dette II<\/h2>\n<p><video width=\"320\" height=\"180\" controls=\"controls\" autobuffer=\"\"><source src=\"\/video\/L Argent Dette 2   Promesses Chim\u00e9riques 2010 FR int\u00e9gral.mp4\" type=\"video\/mp4\" \/><source src=\"\/video\/L Argent Dette 2   Promesses Chim\u00e9riques 2010 FR int\u00e9gral.webm\" type=\"video\/webm\" \/><object width=\"320\" height=\"180\" classid=\"clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"src\" value=\"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/wp-includes\/js\/tinymce\/plugins\/media\/moxieplayer.swf\" \/><param name=\"flashvars\" value=\"url=\/video\/L%20Argent%20Dette%202%20%20%20Promesses%20Chim%E9riques%202010%20FR%20int%E9gral.mp4&amp;poster=\/wp-admin\/\" \/><param name=\"allowfullscreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"true\" \/><embed width=\"320\" height=\"180\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" src=\"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/wp-includes\/js\/tinymce\/plugins\/media\/moxieplayer.swf\" flashvars=\"url=\/video\/L%20Argent%20Dette%202%20%20%20Promesses%20Chim%E9riques%202010%20FR%20int%E9gral.mp4&amp;poster=\/wp-admin\/\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" allowscriptaccess=\"true\" \/><\/object><\/video><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>L&rsquo;argent Dette III part 1\/3<\/h2>\n<p><video width=\"320\" height=\"180\" controls=\"controls\" autobuffer=\"\"><source src=\"\/video\/L\u2019Argent Dette III   Evolution au-del\u00e0 de l\u2019Argent 1 3.mp4\" type=\"video\/mp4\" \/><source src=\"\/video\/L\u2019Argent Dette III   Evolution au-del\u00e0 de l\u2019Argent 1 3.webm\" type=\"video\/webm\" \/><object width=\"320\" height=\"180\" classid=\"clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"src\" value=\"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/wp-includes\/js\/tinymce\/plugins\/media\/moxieplayer.swf\" \/><param name=\"flashvars\" value=\"url=\/video\/L%u2019Argent%20Dette%20III%20%20%20Evolution%20au-del%E0%20de%20l%u2019Argent%201%203.mp4&amp;poster=\/wp-admin\/\" \/><param name=\"allowfullscreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"true\" \/><embed width=\"320\" height=\"180\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" src=\"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/wp-includes\/js\/tinymce\/plugins\/media\/moxieplayer.swf\" flashvars=\"url=\/video\/L%u2019Argent%20Dette%20III%20%20%20Evolution%20au-del%E0%20de%20l%u2019Argent%201%203.mp4&amp;poster=\/wp-admin\/\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" allowscriptaccess=\"true\" \/><\/object><\/video><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>L&rsquo;argent Dette III part 2\/3<\/h2>\n<p><video width=\"320\" height=\"180\" controls=\"controls\" autobuffer=\"\"><source src=\"\/video\/L\u2019Argent Dette III   Evolution au-del\u00e0 de l\u2019Argent 2 3.mp4\" type=\"video\/mp4\" \/><source src=\"\/video\/L\u2019Argent Dette III   Evolution au-del\u00e0 de l\u2019Argent 2 3.webm\" type=\"video\/webm\" \/><object width=\"320\" height=\"180\" classid=\"clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"src\" value=\"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/wp-includes\/js\/tinymce\/plugins\/media\/moxieplayer.swf\" \/><param name=\"flashvars\" value=\"url=\/video\/L%u2019Argent%20Dette%20III%20%20%20Evolution%20au-del%E0%20de%20l%u2019Argent%202%203.mp4&amp;poster=\/wp-admin\/\" \/><param name=\"allowfullscreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"true\" \/><embed width=\"320\" height=\"180\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" src=\"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/wp-includes\/js\/tinymce\/plugins\/media\/moxieplayer.swf\" flashvars=\"url=\/video\/L%u2019Argent%20Dette%20III%20%20%20Evolution%20au-del%E0%20de%20l%u2019Argent%202%203.mp4&amp;poster=\/wp-admin\/\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" allowscriptaccess=\"true\" \/><\/object><\/video><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>L&rsquo;argent Dette III part 3\/3<\/h2>\n<p><video width=\"320\" height=\"180\" controls=\"controls\" autobuffer=\"\"><source src=\"\/video\/L\u2019Argent Dette III   Evolution au-del\u00e0 de l\u2019Argent 3 3.mp4\" type=\"video\/mp4\" \/><source src=\"\/video\/L\u2019Argent Dette III   Evolution au-del\u00e0 de l\u2019Argent 3 3.webm\" type=\"video\/webm\" \/><object width=\"320\" height=\"180\" classid=\"clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"src\" value=\"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/wp-includes\/js\/tinymce\/plugins\/media\/moxieplayer.swf\" \/><param name=\"flashvars\" value=\"url=\/video\/L%u2019Argent%20Dette%20III%20%20%20Evolution%20au-del%E0%20de%20l%u2019Argent%203%203.mp4&amp;poster=\/wp-admin\/\" \/><param name=\"allowfullscreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"true\" \/><embed width=\"320\" height=\"180\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" src=\"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/wp-includes\/js\/tinymce\/plugins\/media\/moxieplayer.swf\" flashvars=\"url=\/video\/L%u2019Argent%20Dette%20III%20%20%20Evolution%20au-del%E0%20de%20l%u2019Argent%203%203.mp4&amp;poster=\/wp-admin\/\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" allowscriptaccess=\"true\" \/><\/object><\/video><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>L&rsquo;argent Dette III part 3\/3<\/h2>\n<p><video width=\"320\" height=\"180\" controls=\"controls\" autobuffer=\"\"><source src=\"\/video\/L\u2019Argent Dette III   Evolution au-del\u00e0 de l\u2019Argent 3 3.mp4\" type=\"video\/mp4\" \/><source src=\"\/video\/L\u2019Argent Dette III   Evolution au-del\u00e0 de l\u2019Argent 3 3.webm\" type=\"video\/webm\" \/><object width=\"320\" height=\"180\" classid=\"clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"src\" value=\"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/wp-includes\/js\/tinymce\/plugins\/media\/moxieplayer.swf\" \/><param name=\"flashvars\" value=\"url=\/video\/L%u2019Argent%20Dette%20III%20%20%20Evolution%20au-del%E0%20de%20l%u2019Argent%203%203.mp4&amp;poster=\/wp-admin\/\" \/><param name=\"allowfullscreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"true\" \/><embed width=\"320\" height=\"180\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" src=\"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/wp-includes\/js\/tinymce\/plugins\/media\/moxieplayer.swf\" flashvars=\"url=\/video\/L%u2019Argent%20Dette%20III%20%20%20Evolution%20au-del%E0%20de%20l%u2019Argent%203%203.mp4&amp;poster=\/wp-admin\/\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" allowscriptaccess=\"true\" \/><\/object><\/video><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Paul Grignon a \u00e9t\u00e9 r\u00e9trograd\u00e9 en deuxi\u00e8me place, il reste avec nous en tant que pr\u00e9curseur, mais Gabriel Rabhi le remplace en t\u00eate de liste. Grignon a commis une erreur : en insistant sur la nocivit\u00e9 du cr\u00e9dit, sans pr\u00e9ciser qu&rsquo;il parlait du cr\u00e9dit priv\u00e9. Gardez donc en t\u00eate que le mot &lsquo;priv\u00e9&rsquo; doit syst\u00e9matiquement [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-1769","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/1769","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1769"}],"version-history":[{"count":13,"href":"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/1769\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2682,"href":"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/1769\/revisions\/2682"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.vuncf.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1769"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}